How exactly is the US going to fight 2 wars when the Govt. & it’s people are bankrupt?
Unless of course we nuke Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran & Pakistan.
Unless of course we nuke Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran & Pakistan.
I hate Bush. I didn’t want my country bankrupted spending a Trillion dollars on Iraq. But that inflation cut my spending power in half.
But you conservatives liked that war for no reason in Iraq.
My Teacher’s Union GETS THINGS for teachers. That are worth A HECK of a lot more than the dollars a month.
So how come I have to go along with something that SCREWS ME like Iraq, but non union teachers don’t have to go along with the union that gets them job protection, better working conditions, higher pay, better health benefits, better pensions and makes their life better in every way?
I asked this question in current events, but that seemed like the wrong place for it so instead I am putting it here in politics.
Okay I just want to know why people oppose the war in Afghanistan and/or Iraq.
First off, let me say what I believe the war to be. Do I believe there was WMD… no. Do I believe Bush lied about the WMD’s… well kinda yeah. But do I still support the war, yes I do.
That is because you liberals are right, the main priority of this war is about oil. Do you not realize how much of our oil comes from the middle east, and do you not realize how unstable the middle east is? If we were to ever lose that oil from the middle east, this country would go bankrupt in a heartbeat and we would be a third world country. So please forgive me when I don’t care that the war is about oil.
But that is not to say that we also don’t have a noble cause. Yes we are securing our oil source, but at the same time we are freeing those people from taliban rule and Saddam. We are bringing freedom to people who never even heard of the term. Now before you go into "well they like living like that, and who are we to bring our American idea of freedom to other cultures." I agree with you, if people choose to live like that then they should be able to do so. But what about the people who don’t want to live like that? What about the women who don’t want to be force to marry someone they don’t want to? What about the women who want to show off their face without the fear being stoned to death?
In the end, the people are forced to live like that. Yes some may like it, but most don’t. And the ones who don’t can’t leave. For helping these people alone should be enough of a reason to support the war. We can also help bring these third world countries into the modern age, and may even gain an allies or two along the way.
So yes of course America got involved with the middle east to secure our oil interests, but that is not to say that we aren’t helping anyone. If we were to pull out completely then those people who want freedom will lose any chance at it, and we as a country will rely on completely unstable countries to supply most of our oil. I just wish Bush would of just came out and said that, instead of this BS about WMD’s.
Oh and just so you don’t think I am sitting on my high horse talking about the war like this, I have friends and family in the military and I am joining the army hopefully by the end of summer if not sooner.
To Dobby:
The people who volunteer for the military are generally fine with what they are fighting for and know the risk involve with it. Why else would they volunteer?
To chin:
Trade doesn’t work if the other country ends of hating you and breaking any trade deals. And only about 1/4 or our oil comes from Canada and Mexico. While about 2/4 come from middle eastern countries. Other words, about half of our oil comes from the middle east.
I meant the end of next summer… my bad.
How would you solve our foreign diplomacy problems? Bomb all of our enemies? Do we start nuking Korea, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Pakistan, Palestine China. Would that solve it? Then what do we do with all those dying people?
How would you solve our financial problems? Let every company now fail, and all the banks fail? GM fail, all housing in foreclosure, and all people on the streets?
How would you solve our health care problems? (One in four bankruptcies is now caused by inability to pay medical costs). Would you just turn away anyone and everyone who is dying if they cannot pay? If they are in a car crash, do we let them die in the wreckage if they cannot show a medical insurance card?
I find lots of you on here are big to criticize, but I find no real alternative solutions.
Take one of these and discuss it.
Which candidate for President do you think is most concerned about the highest priority issues in America? I have heard that McCain has expressed the urgency to find new oil resources and decrease our dependency on foreign oil and that will help get us out of Iraq and increase funds to develop alternative fuel sources. I haven’t heard much about Obama’s plans, only what he has to say negative about his opponents. http://mhutch.blogspot.com/2008/05/more-alaska-oil-drilling-needed-to.html http://www.issues2000.org/2008/John_McCain_Energy_+_Oil.htm I mean oil independence will take some time, but considering the present crisis – isn’t some drilling in Alaska and other areas of the US – important to try? I heard the oil prices are going to hit 200/barrel in 2 years which equates to more than .00 per gallon for businesses and consumers in the US. Prices will increase, demand will decrease, average people will lose jobs and not be able to afford food and housing – bankruptcy!
Solutions to Islamic Terror:
1) Do nothing at all (extreme Christian/Leftist view)
2) No military action, but seal every nook and cranny (mainstream Christian/Leftist view)
3) Proactively confront Islamic countries who harbor terror camps (mainstream conservative view)
4) Nuke Mecca (anti-islam view)
5) Ban Islam in America.
Choices 2 & 3 are not solutions. Islamists realize that either choice leads to bankruptcy and ruin. Its impossible to seal every nook and cranny, and even if it was, we would go bankrupt before sealing 20% of the "vulnerablities".
Iraq, Afganistan or any other Islamic theater of war is another "bleeding" alternative, as we can see now. Because American culture believes in a lefitst-santized version of "war", we give the enemy the advantage. America soliders are not soliders, they are "security" personel waiting for the Islamist to shot him.
If we banned Islam, would we need to seal every port and plane or fight overseas? Ok…go on being PC…go on.